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We're embarking on an expedition to the coldest, driest, most remote continent on Earth, Antarctica, to explore why this icy wasteland might be one of the weirdest places on the planet. We’re talking secret Nazi bases, bleeding glaciers, ghost stories, UFOs, and the all-time conspiracy classic: Operation Highjump

Also in this episode: Travis learns that “Antarctica” means “no bears,” and Josh demands the immediate release of all government data ever. (Good luck with that.)

If you like your icebergs with a side of ancient civilizations, magnetic anomalies, alien bases, and deeply suspicious no-fly zones, this one’s for you.

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Josh:

Aliens.

Travis:

Yes. But maybe no. Welcome to the show. Aliens, yes, but maybe no with Josh and Travis. I'm Travis. I'm Josh. And this is an Otherworldly podcast as ambiguous as our title. So, Josh, we are trying some new things today. Do we want to talk about this or not?

Josh:

I I mean, just remote things. Just recording remotely. We're still trying to figure it out.

Travis:

I'm too nervous to try to dive too deep into it. My palms are sweaty. My mouse keeps slipping out of my hands. You have a mouse? Yeah. You don't use a mouse?

Josh:

No.

Travis:

It's gonna be fine, you guys. It's gonna be fine. I'm just being really anxious. It's gonna be fine. Don't listen to me. I mean, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Josh:

No, listen.

Travis:

I want you to listen to me, but don't listen to me. Know what I'm saying?

Josh:

I do. I get it. Listen to the show.

Travis:

Listen to the show. Don't listen to my anxiety.

Josh:

Okay. Do you remember what we talked about last week?

Travis:

Not a clue.

Josh:

I believe it was the Majestic 12.

Travis:

Okay. Remind me what that is again.

Josh:

It was a document that came out that basically highlighted the people that have been in control, like the secret government organization that has extra top clearance that has been kind of orchestrating the whole alien and even beyond culture and facts and information. It was fascinating. It changed my life.

Travis:

I have no idea what we talked about. That was it. I have a lot going on. I know, but I I don't remember much about that. I remember it being a very dense episode. And yes.

Josh:

You're househopping right now.

Travis:

I am house hopping. Uh illegally, by the way. We are squatting. Oh. Come get us. If you dare. Uh-huh. There's a lot of open houses in Oregon. So if you're looking for a house, hit me up in the chats. I will hook you up. So we don't know what we're doing. This is basically for anybody that decides to what jump in is an episode.

Josh:

This will be the 29th episode.

Travis:

Okay. So if if you're jumping in at episode 29, great. Congratulations. Yeah. You did it. You're built different.

Josh:

So we did discuss this at our very first episode, kind of who we are, what we know, which at the beginning of us starting this, we didn't know anything.

Travis:

Arguably still don't.

Josh:

We've learned a little bit here and there, but the more we learn, the more we realize we don't really know anything. But we have a researcher. Her name is Jordan. She's been on one of the episodes before. It was great. We don't know what our next episode is until we get a quiz at the end of the episode. And then you get to hear us fail at the quiz, basically. Or sometimes we do okay.

Travis:

Well, you get to hear me fail at the quiz. If you've listened to episodes before, you know how well I do, which is not good. So we don't need to rehash 29 other episodes, I don't think. I think we can probably move along, wouldn't you say, Josh?

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

Like if you're questioning what this show's about, I would strongly suggest going back into any one of our other episodes, but episode 29, this one specifically, where we're getting into high strangeness and Antarctica, name of the show. You know, maybe this isn't the best place to jump in, because this is gonna be a weirdo, a weird one.

Josh:

If you want a recap of kind of how we're doing this and what, go check out our first episode and our second, and our just go listen to the rest.

Travis:

Yeah, just start at the beginning though. That's probably the best place.

Josh:

Yeah, there's not a storyline you can jump around, but if you want to see us from zero information and then slowly learn information, yeah, I would start at episode numero Uno.

Travis:

Yep, or just skip over all of this shit anyway and get right into it.

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

Like we're at the what five-minute mark now? So, you know, just skip through it.

Josh:

Another thing that we're gonna do before our quiz at the end, we're gonna read fan mail.

Travis:

Yeah, that's exciting. We're gonna be read for filth. We'll read every single letter. This is my promise to you. We will read every letter.

Josh:

Unless you say you don't want us to.

Travis:

Yes, exactly. We'll respect your boundaries.

Josh:

If you just want to send us a note, we'll also do comments or reviews. We'll read those.

Travis:

I say everyone now because nobody's sending us fan mail, so I don't know what it's gonna look like in the future. But I promise Josh will read every one of those on air.

Josh:

Yep. So stay tuned for that at the end of the episodes, uh, right before the quiz.

Travis:

I'll be getting hamburgered in the back.

Josh:

You mean you'll be eating a hamburger?

Travis:

I will be eating a hamburger soaked in whiskey.

Josh:

Oh.

Travis:

But the listeners made me do it.

Josh:

A wet burger.

Travis:

Yep, with whiskey, but that's what I'm gonna have to do.

Josh:

I get it. Anything for the like. Yep. So what's the topic of this episode?

Travis:

High strangeness in Antarctica.

Josh:

Antarctica.

Travis:

Do you know Antarctica means no bears in Greek?

Josh:

Really?

Travis:

Yeah, Arctic means bears. Antarctic, no bears.

Josh:

Weird.

Travis:

And it's true, no bears in Antarctica.

Josh:

I did not know that. I did a lot of studying and I just right off the bat I'm learning something new.

Travis:

Booyah.

Josh:

So we are talking about Antarctica, the wonderful and crazy continent of Antarctica. I'm very excited about this episode. So we'll just dive in.

Travis:

Let's do it. Take us there.

Josh:

So on January 9th, 1909, 117 years to the day of this episode publishing.

Travis:

That's really funny. 117 years to the day of this episode publishing.

Josh:

It's like when we released the Flatwoods Monster episode on Flatwoods Monster Day. Yeah.

Travis:

I hope this is a footnote. On January 9th, 1909, 117 years, aliens yes but maybe no publish this podcast.

Josh:

In 100 years, someone's doing a podcast about our podcast.

Travis:

Yeah. People exploring Antarctica. There's like a little asterisk. You scroll down to the bottom and it says Aliens, yes, but maybe no covered this uh X amount of years ago, before in 2024.

Josh:

2024.

Travis:

Tw yeah.

Josh:

Do you know what year it is?

Travis:

Not a clue.

Josh:

It's 2025. That's okay.

Travis:

We'll figure it out. Have we only been doing this for a couple months?

Josh:

No, we've been doing this for a year.

Travis:

Oh my god, it feels like we've been doing this. Uh I feel like I'm living in a curse. I feel like I've only ever been recording this podcast.

Josh:

Yeah, our first episode was released January 3rd of 2025. This will be released January 9th, 2026.

Travis:

Okay, listener, dear listener, we are recording this episode in November of 2025. So you can see where I would get confused.

Josh:

Yeah, we're all over the place.

Travis:

We're talking to you from the past.

Josh:

So many dates. But the one that we need to focus on is January 9th, 1909.

Travis:

Got it.

Josh:

Ernest Shackleton and his crew reached Antarctica, a place so remote and hostile it might as well have been a different planet. More than a century later, it's still one of the most mysterious places on Earth. Beneath the endless sheet of ice and the stories of red waterfalls that bleed from glaciers, frozen mountains that hum in the wind, and holes so large that you can't even fly over it. I mean you can, but it's restricted. Scientists call it the coldest, driest, most isolated continent in the world.

Travis:

I think everybody calls it that though.

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

The coldest, driest, most isolated continent in the world. I think that's irrefutable.

Josh:

The scientists said it first.

Travis:

I mean, they've got the data.

Josh:

That's true. But for conspiracy theorists and UFO hunters, like Travis, it's something else entirely. It's a frozen vault of ancient civilizations, alien technology, and secrets buried miles beneath the ice. There are tales of haunted huts and phantom voices, of maps that somehow show Antarctica before it was even covered in ice, and of whistleblowers who claim the government found something down there it didn't want the world to see. So let's get into the mysteries of the most remote continent on Earth.

Travis:

So we can all agree that Antarctica is strange, right?

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

So before diving into more speculative theories surrounding Antarctica, it's important to recognize that the continent is inherently unusual, scientifically, geologically, and environmentally. Even without invoking conspiracy, it is one of the most extreme and least understood environments on Earth. I would put that up against like the deep trenches of the ocean, right? Very inhospitable.

Josh:

Yeah, what's down there? What are they doing down there?

Travis:

Yeah, what are they doing down there? There are volcanoes underwater that have temperatures that are so extreme that we didn't think life could exist down there, and we're finding little bacteria. So it's wild.

Josh:

Like wild.

Travis:

Anyway, we're gonna talk a little bit about the Blood Falls. This is a waterfall that literally bleeds from a glacier. I mean not literally. It figuratively bleeds from a glacier. It's called Blood Falls because it pours out iron-rich water that's been trapped underground for millions of years. When it hits the air, that iron oxidizes and turns a deep red, which makes the ice look like it's bleeding.

Josh:

And I'll put that in the show notes.

Travis:

This one, the image that's in our show notes, is definitely doctored because it is a more orange. This is like they've really highlighted the contrast in the picture we're looking at. And yeah, include that in the show notes. It makes it look blood red. But when you look at things from like Google images, it's more orange. Yeah. So Lake Vostok and subglacial lakes give you a little background. A subglacial lake buried under two miles of the ice, completely cut off from the atmosphere, sunlight or life as we know it, and yet scientists found microbial life in it, organisms that evolved to survive in total darkness, extreme pressure, and freezing cold. So we were talking about that a little bit ago. It's like Jeff Goldblum says in Jurassic Park, life finds a way. So if life is able to find a way to exist, it will.

Josh:

Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't make sense, you know. And that was kind of, I mean, going back to our first episode, I think you mentioned that. How you know we're finding life in places life shouldn't be. So why wouldn't there be life somewhere else? That is kind of your proof that aliens have to exist.

Travis:

They have to. Yeah. They have to. They have to. Like if life is going to exist, it will exist. Nothing's gonna stop it. Right. Okay, so polinias are a mass of recurring ice-free area and sea ice. They can be vast, like the Ireland size one in the Weddell Sea in 2017, the largest in over 40 years.

Josh:

They're kind of unexplainable. They don't understand exactly what's happening, but there is some rhyme and rhythm because they keep reappearing in somewhat similar locations.

Travis:

Yep. So scientists think it could be that rising warmer, saltier deep water is melting the ice, but the precise mechanisms and triggers remain unidentified. The consistent reappearance of these phenomena in the same locations points to unclarified underlying geophysical or oceanographic patterns.

Josh:

Damn.

Travis:

Pretty wild.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't get that. It should be frozen.

Travis:

Yeah, but maybe it's just too cold. So, like what causes ice is like freezing water, and if it is I don't know. I'm not I'm not a scientist. I'm not even gonna try to explain it. I'm just gonna try to work it out in my own head. Like, if there's no precipitation and no water, there's not going to be ice, right?

Josh:

If that makes sense, yeah.

Travis:

Okay, so um singing ice, it's another phenomena found in the Ross Ice Shelf, the largest ice shelf in Antarctica, covering an area of over 5,000 square kilometers. Researchers there have discovered the ice shelf amidst a constant low frequency open quote singing close quote vibration and audible to humans. The sound caused by wind, creating surface vibrations across snow dunes, generates seismic tones monitored by sensors. It serves as a real-time tool to track ice shelf stability.

Josh:

Which is so cool that they're able to harness that and figure out the health of the ice. That's kind of cool.

Travis:

Do you think you could say ice shelf stability as quickly as I did?

Josh:

Ice has yeah.

Travis:

Well done.

Josh:

Thanks.

Travis:

Mount Erebus, found on Ross Island, is the southernmost active volcano on Earth. It has a special lava lake, my favorite kind of cake, that has been bubbling for over a million years. Antarctica's volcanoes create warm ice caves, allowing unique extremophiles to thrive in darkness. Discovering these organisms reshapes our understanding of life's potential in extreme solar system environments.

Josh:

Okay, so that extremophiles, that sounds like someone that loves extreme things.

Travis:

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. You could be an extremophile. If you love extreme things, this is talking more about environment. So, like extreme heat, like from a volcano, which can be very hostile, but if you look at some of the research that's come out, there are organisms that can live in this kind of extreme heat.

Josh:

And so Antarctica has things living where they shouldn't in complete darkness and frozen, and then also the hottest things where nothing should exist.

Travis:

Yeah, not necessarily the same organism, but there are organisms that live in these, right? Yeah. Tardigrates or water bears are another little animal that has been known to live in extreme environments. Also can live in the vacuum of space, which is wild. That is. Meteorites. Antarctica is one of the best places on Earth to find meteorites. Over 50,000 have been found in Antarctica, which is about 60% of all meteorites ever collected on Earth.

Josh:

That's cool.

Travis:

I don't know why that is, other than like it is untouched. We're not building on it. Uh, the icy landscape makes dark space rocks easy to spot, and the cold, dry climate prevents them from breaking down. Glacial movement even helps push meteorites to the surface, concentrating them in specific areas. It's almost like they are like, hey, look at this. I've caught these things for you. Come and look at them.

Josh:

Yeah, and I imagine they're really hot. So if a meteorite does break down, like if it lands in a desert somewhere, which Antarctica is considered desert, which is weird.

Travis:

Yeah. The ocean is a desert with its life underground.

Josh:

Oh, but if they land in like a dry, warm place, I imagine the heat is gonna make that meteorite a little more brittle and it could break down. But the ice in Antarctica, I would imagine, cools it very quick and keeps it in its freshest form. But yeah, I mean, Antarctica is weird. Just without, like you said, the conspiracies or anything like that, it is just scientifically bizarre. But that's not the only bizarre thing about Antarctica, because there are ghosts. Ooooooo. Yeah, there's lots of supernatural things that happen there. So even before the UF sightings and whistleblower accounts on all the other craziness that we'll get to, explorers in Antarctica were reporting things that were really hard to explain. In 1916, after the endurance was crushed by ice, Ernest Shackleton and two crew members made a desperate trek across South Georgia Island. All three later described the same thing, without discussing it beforehand. They felt a fourth presence walking with them, a quiet, unseen companion. And this became known as the third man syndrome, a phenomenon where people in extreme conditions, cold, isolated starvation, sense a comforting presence guiding them. But what makes it strange is how often the experience is shared by more than one person. I'll link a video in our show notes that we watched. It's a channel called The Discovery of Mystery, and he does a really good job just explaining all of that, which is phenomenal. But over the last century, reports from Antarctica have gone beyond just that. In old expedition huts, explorers have heard phantom voices, footsteps, and even knocking on windows. Sir Edmund Hillary claimed he saw Shackleton himself, which is very interesting. I did a rabbit trail on that whole story. But honestly, you guys should really look up Ernest Shackleton and his story. It is phenomenal. One of the best adventuring stories and one of the best life-saving stories there is. And then Sir Edmund Hillary as well. And looking deeper into Edmund Hillary, he believed so much that he saw Ernest Shackleton at this hut that he ended up being a very big supporter for the preservation of this hut. And it is still there and it is still preserved through a heritage organization. So he did see something, or at least he thinks he saw something. Another in 1980, Virginia, Lady Fines, felt an aggressive presence near Rivingen Mountain and left a warning on the hut wall. And the warning said, I will haunt and I will taunt you and drive you away. That's spookier than the spooky things. At Esperanza Base, crews overwintering have reported the sense of being watched and seeing a man just standing in the dark. Some blame stress or local magnetic fields. I mean, and there are hundreds and hundreds, and almost everyone that goes to Antarctica has some kind of thing.

Travis:

I think this I will haunt and will taunt you and drive you away. I think that's a prank.

Josh:

You think?

Travis:

Oh yeah, 100%. What do you think wrote on the wall, Josh? Do you think an alien came in and wrote English on the wall? Why not French or Spanish? Why not Russian?

Josh:

I don't. I mean, it could have been a prank. Could have been Lady Fines.

Travis:

Why not Greek or Latin?

Josh:

That's true. I mean, you said Antarctica is Greek, the name. Yeah.

Travis:

I did. So wait, so why not? Why not? Why did they write it in Greek? You're right. I just think that's a prank.

Josh:

It I mean, it is strange how much goes on there. And it could be psychological. You know, there's a lot of isolation. There's a lot of, I mean, the third man syndrome alone, it's not just happening in Antarctica. It happens all over the world, but it's usually people doing extreme things or their life is in peril.

Travis:

Yeah, no, I think there was a guy that stayed in a cave and experienced a very similar event to the third man syndrome. Like was completely cut off, slept a lot of his day, and was experiencing like the feeling of being watched, which is terrifying.

Josh:

I would hate that. But with the third man, a lot of these people or most of the cases say it's more of a comforting, guiding feeling. And there was one person, and you can see that in the video I was talking about, where they actually said the third man syndrome, whatever that entity was, actually talked.

Travis:

I don't like it. No, I don't like it at all. Nope. I don't think that would be a comfort to me in the slightest.

Josh:

Well, for Shacklin and his crew, it's actually what gave them the energy and courage or willpower to keep going, is how they explained it. Which is weird. You know, if there's a third entity, that would be the opposite. I'd be like, nope, and I would just sit. Uh-uh. Not going anywhere till you leave.

Travis:

Yeah, I'm not doing this.

Josh:

No.

Travis:

Get behind me, Satan. Okay, so we're gonna talk about Operation High Jump and the rise of conspiracy. In 1946, just after the end of World War II, the US Navy launched its largest Antarctic expedition ever. It was called Operation High Jump, and it involved over 4,700 military personnel, 13 ships, and more than 30 aircraft. Officially, it was a training and research mission to test equipment in extreme cold, establish American presence, and map out parts of the continent. But the scale of the operation and how quickly it ended sparked decades of speculation. The mission was planned to last six months. Instead, Josh? It was cut short after just eight weeks. Suspicious. The official explanation cited bad weather. I mean, I don't know that it's suspicious, and we'll we'll get into this. The official explanation cited bad weather and supply issues, but some theorists believe the US military encountered something unexpected, possibly hostile. I mean, this is a very hostile environment.

Josh:

Yeah, just in weather alone.

Travis:

And it's very hard to get to. You know, it's its own continent down to the bottom of the world. You can only get there from certain points and deliver those, you know, supplies or whatever, and those supplies can only get delivered. If the weather permits, we can't just teleport items there. They have to go across. We can't? I know it sucks. No. Someday. It's got to go across water or it's got to go through the air. And if it's like blizzarding and the weather is just real shitty, you can't get there. And so you're not going to get the supplies you need. And that sucks. Yeah. Maybe go to space and drop it down and put a little geolocator in the thing, but this is like 1950s. That didn't exist.

Josh:

It is possible that it was weather, but I mean, cutting the thing six months early, they have all the supplies. They're there. That just seems odd that they would just give up.

Travis:

Maybe they didn't plan enough. I mean, if there's 4,700 military personnel, that is a lot of food. Yeah. 13 ships, 30 aircraft is a lot of fuel. And I think getting all of those resources down there.

Josh:

They did.

Travis:

That's why they cut it short.

Josh:

So they say. But there's no way logistically that they would send that many people with not enough food.

Travis:

I think to get it started, yeah, 100%, but not to maintain it. That is a lot of food that has to go down there all at once. Nobody ever goes down there. You don't say, I'm gonna do a 20-month thing and I'm going to send all my resources down in 20 months. Like 20 months of food or whatever. However long this was going to last, your food would spoil. You wouldn't be able to use your fuel after a certain amount of time. Or fuel subjected to these extreme elements would not be efficient, or you would not be able to use it in the same way. Could freeze.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough about all that.

Travis:

I'm just saying, well, this is the information that we're given, Josh. Right. It's not up to us to speculate why it was canceled, or it is. Maybe it is up to us to speculate. I'm gonna, but I mean, we're not scientists. Yeah. I'm gonna say, like, just the resources alone to launch an expedition like this with this many people and this many ships and aircraft, that's a lot. That's a lot of resources sent down there.

Josh:

Which is weird in its own right. Why they send that much. I mean, you could take on a country with a military with that many resources.

Travis:

Yep. So six months, that's a lot. Food would go bad. You can't send six months of food down there for 4,700 people. That's just that's a lot of real estate. That's a lot of that's a lot more ships needed to go down there. It just seems like a logistical nightmare. And then this is the biggest expedition. I just don't think they thought it all the way through. They thought, well, we're gonna have lines of resources open. If we need it, we're gonna be just fine. Anyway, I'm just a dummy. I'm just speculating. So that theory that they may have come across something hostile is fueled by comments later attributed to Admiral Richard E. Byrd, who led the expedition. In one interview, he warned of a new enemy capable of flying from pole to pole at incredible speed. That one sentence launched decades of speculation. According to conspiracy circles, Operation High Jump was never just about training, it was a covert mission to locate and confront a secret Nazi base allegedly built in a region called New Swabia.

Josh:

It could be real. No, it could. There was rumors for sure. I mean Hitler and the Nazis were crazy about all crazy things.

Travis:

Yeah, the occult, especially. Yeah. So some versions of the story claim the Nazis had discovered ancient alien technology under the ice and were building flying saucers with it. Other variations go further. They suggest the fleet was attacked by disc-shaped craft, forcing a sudden retreat. Some even connect Operation High Jump to Admiral Bird's missing diary, which describes a flight into a lush, temperate world inside the earth. I love that idea.

Josh:

I do too.

Travis:

Like that's where that's where Kong lives and Godzilla goes on his summer breaks.

Josh:

Yeah. And the cavemen are still alive, but they're smart.

Travis:

Yep. Yep, they're very smart. In that account, Bird meets an advanced being called the Master, who warns humanity against using nuclear weapons. We didn't listen. The diary, however, is widely believed to be a hoax written by a hollow earth theorist in the 1960s.

Josh:

Yeah. Oh man. Which is so sad.

Travis:

So I guess you could say, like, what is true about this is Operation High Jump did happen. It was large, expensive, and ended sooner than planned. Whether it was just a logistical failure or something stranger happening out on the ice remains part of the enduring mystery.

Josh:

Yeah. And the mystery keeps going. Yeah. There's so many high strangest things. So we have pyramids, maps, and lost civilizations. The maps are weird. As early as the 1500s, maps began to appear that showed something strange. An ice-free landmass at the bottom of the globe drawn long before Antarctica was officially discovered. So two maps in particular, the Pyri Reese map from 1513 and the Orantius Phineas map from 1531. And those are at the heart of the mystery. They seem to depict Antarctica's coastline without its massive ice sheet. So according to modern geographers, parts of the Orontus map even matched known mountain ranges now buried under two miles of ice. So they were accurate maps that were created before Antarctica was even known.

Travis:

Well, they weren't accurate accurate.

Josh:

I mean they had coastlines and mountains.

Travis:

Sure, like they didn't have any aerial way to document this. They're walking the coastline and doing the best they can. I mean, even areas like Italy, Rome, the Americas, all those maps were not that accurate. And we're talking 1500s. Europeans hadn't even mapped the Americas yet.

Josh:

And that's what's so crazy that these maps that were just acknowledging that it was there and then still having some of the correct coastlines, some of the correct locations of mountain ranges that is now completely covered in ice, that's bizarre. So this actually has led to believe that these maps were based on much older source material, so they didn't actually go there and map it themselves.

Travis:

Oh some outside influence.

Josh:

Yeah. Possibly from an ancient seafaring civilization that explored or inhabited Antarctica when the climate was radically different. So one theory, popularized by author Charles Hapgood, is called Earth crust displacement. It proposes that Antarctica was once located in a warmer region of the globe and shifted to its current position during a sudden pole shift around 12,000 years ago. And if true, it would mean Antarctica may have once supported life and possibly human civilization before being flash-frozen beneath the ice. And I remember seeing this guy, he was saying that this displacement, if the tectonic plates and all this blah blah blah, Antarctica could have been much more north than it is today. And then this displacement happened and it moved down. And you said that could have happened within weeks or months. That theory ties directly to the idea that Atlantis, as described by Plato, wasn't in the Atlantic at all, but under Antarctica, which is very cool and exciting. What? I know. It's real. Uh satellite images have added fuel to the fire. In the Ellsworth Mountains, a pyramid-shaped peak appears to rise from the ocean. Some claim it's too symmetrical to be natural, suggesting it may be the remains of an ancient structure. Others point out to several of these pyramids across the continent and believe they could be part of a global energy grid, a concept tied to ancient astronaut theorists. But with those pyramids, mainstream scientists call these formations nun attacks. Was that how we said it?

Travis:

Yep. We talked about that on our was it our last episode?

Josh:

Yeah, it was the quiz.

Travis:

Yeah. Oh shit, that's right.

Josh:

Yeah. And these mountain peaks that protrude through the ice. And they can be shaped by erosion into sharp angular points that resemble pyramids from certain angles. But still, for those who believe in buried civilizations, these peaks represent something much older and much more advanced than we've been told. So whether you see them as natural rock formations or the frozen remains of a lost world, one thing is clear. The possibility of an ancient ice-covered civilization is one of the most enduring and popular theories surrounding Antarctica. My issue with these two things with the ice displacement.

Travis:

Do we call this Josh's corner? Yeah. Or we talk about talk about your issues? Okay.

Josh:

So the crust displacement, if Antarctica was originally a little bit further north where it wasn't frozen, if there was this displacement that happened 12,000, 16,000 years ago and it happened quick, these pyramids would not have survived. Land is moving that quick, everything's going to be destroyed. So a pyramid would not exist still. I would imagine the ground shifting underneath a pyramid. Unless it's alien tech. Who knows? I don't know. But overall, these pyramids they look like pyramids, whatever it is. You hear that nature doesn't create in straight lines. Well, these are straight and accurate. It's very bizarre. So it's still kind of up there, questionable. I don't know. No idea.

Travis:

Okay. You are working on your geology degree though, right?

Josh:

Geology?

Travis:

Study of rocks?

Josh:

No, it was that was uh geomancy.

Travis:

Oh, rock magic.

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

My bad. Yeah. I should know that.

Josh:

Someday it'll come in handy.

Travis:

Or frock magic. Yeah, I don't know what you do with it.

Josh:

When magic is released into the world.

Travis:

Mm-hmm. Okay. So we're gonna talk a little bit about Brian and Spartan 1. In the early 2000s, a retired U.S. Navy flight engineer known only as Brian came forward with a strange story from his time in Antarctica. Between 1983 and 1997, he flew over 300 missions across the continent, often delivering supplies between McMurdo Station and remote research outposts. McMurdo Station's like the main research station in Antarctica. Okay. Like if you've heard of a research station there, it's probably McMurdo that you've heard of. Uh during one emergency flight, Brian's crew was forced to pass through a restricted, no-fly zone. While crossing the area, they saw something unexpected. A massive sloped hole in the ice about 200 feet wide leading downward. As they passed over it, their instruments began to fail. Electrical systems went out, and their compasses spun out of control. When they landed, the crew was pulled aside, not by their commanding officers, but by men in civilian suits.

Josh:

Uh men in black.

Travis:

Oh yeah. Why were they just wearing suits in the Antarctic? They should be wearing coats.

Josh:

I don't know. Maybe because they come from an ice planet?

Travis:

Maybe they come from an ice planet. Maybe, yeah, our weak little Earth environment doesn't affect them. Brian said they were flown in from Washington and told the team firmly to never speak of what they saw. That zone remained off limits from that day on. Later, Brian overheard civilian contractors at McMurdo discussing the area. They didn't refer to it as a base or a station. They simply said they were going to meet the visitors. Years later, another anonymous whistleblower, this one known as Spartan 1, shared his own story. A former Navy SEAL. He claimed that in 2003 he was part of a classified mission to the Bearmore Glacier. His team entered what appeared to be a giant octagonal structure partially exposed above the ice. He described thick black stone walls, glowing green interior, and temperatures around 70 degrees Fahrenheit. You know what this sounds like? What? Superman's Fortress of Solitude.

Josh:

I mean, maybe.

Travis:

Uh except like the glowing green interior, that would be kryptonite, and he would hate that.

Josh:

Yeah, he doesn't like that stuff at all.

Travis:

He does not like it at all.

Josh:

I mean, Superman was an alien.

Travis:

You could almost say his kryptonite is kryptonite, actual kryptonite.

Josh:

That's true. Yeah. But if Hollywood is preparing us, maybe they're preparing us for the architecture of alien life as well. Just all of it. They're just covering everything. Sure.

unknown:

Yeah. Yep.

Josh:

Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

Travis:

Um, inside were massive empty chambers inside this thing, this octagonal structure with glowing green interior. There was a long ramp leading down into deeper levels. Spartan 1 claimed later missions discovered submarine accessible entrances, and that those lower levels weren't empty.

Josh:

Oh my gosh.

Travis:

Yeah, what were they full of? Dirty laundry? Missing socks? That's where I would put it. I don't know. Maybe missing socks, but I was like, I don't know. Where do we put this? Thank God we built this laundry chute to go down to the lower levels. We just put all our dirty laundry there.

Josh:

It's the teleportation.

Travis:

Yeah, you just put it in a chute and it goes away.

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

According to both men, sightings of metallic craft were not rare. Brian even said watching silver, fast-moving objects fly around the mountain ranges became almost routine among flight crews. Instruments would glitch, the air would feel off, and the craft would vanish. These reports remain unverified and are often dismissed as hoaxes. But for many conspiracy theorists and Travis, they um I'm just gonna gently remove myself from this group. Okay. But for many conspiracy theorists, they point to something buried, something being actively hidden. Whether it's ancient tech, a secret program, or something not from Earth, wink wink, the pattern is familiar. Restricted zones, missing data, and people warned to stay silent.

Josh:

Yeah, I've heard that it is also not out of the ordinary to see UAPs in the sky. I mean, even down to the Ernest Shackleton time and even Operation High Jump during that time, there's actually a lot of release documents of different ships, because there's tons of different military groups there. They all experience different things, including ships coming out of the water, ships flying in formation. I mean, there was some wild things happening. And even still to the day, there's just a lot of weird things in the sky being seen. One of my bigger conspiracies about Antarctica is that it's not owned by any one country. It's governed by an agreement called the Antarctic Treaty. This is so weird. This is when I get like, ooh, the sun's off. What's going on? This treaty, signed in 1959, today over 50 countries are part of it, which designates the continent as a place for peaceful scientific research.

Travis:

Oh, that's why you hate it.

Josh:

I don't hate it. It's just intriguing.

Travis:

We have international space stations, Josh.

Josh:

I know. I'm not a hater.

Travis:

Where like Chinese and Russian and German and American Japanese astronauts all collaborate.

Josh:

That's great. I love it.

Travis:

Mm-hmm. But you're feeling some strangeness about this?

Josh:

Yeah, just the time, and a lot of the people that signed the treaty were actually at war. So there was warring countries.

Travis:

What war in 1959?

Josh:

Uh, Russia and the United States, they were signing it.

Travis:

Yeah.

Josh:

So they were at war, all this other stuff, but then all of a sudden there's this treaty going on down here.

Travis:

Well, they're not like a war, war, it's a cold war.

Josh:

Is that a hint to Antarctica?

Travis:

Yes, it's a it was a very cold war.

Josh:

Yeah. I mean, it just seems suspicious.

Travis:

So what countries? Let's let's talk about this.

Josh:

Over 50 countries are part of this treaty, which, like I said, it's about peaceful scientific research. Military activity, mining, and territorial claims are all banned, but that hasn't stopped the speculation. For one, while the treaty promotes open access to scientific data, in practice, access to certain areas is still restricted. Some regions are closed off entirely, either for environmental protection, safety, or as some believe, other reasons. So there's no fly zones across the continent all over, officially labeled for things like wildlife protection or navigational risk, but stories like Brian's, who flew into one by accident, make people wonder what's really there. Satellite imagery is also limited. Some regions have been blurred or patched over in public maps. Google Earth, for example, doesn't provide consistent high-resolution imagery across Antarctica. And to some, this looks like an intentional redaction, which is very bizarre. There's a whole bunch of stuff like that. There was like a big entrance to a cave on the ocean. It looks like there was steps up to it, and this was on Google Maps, and then it was taken off, and it looked like it was patched through where there was no cave, and then a few years later it came back, but it was a little bit different and lower resolution than the one image from earlier. Very strange. The continent is also one of the most monitored places on Earth. Nearly every research station is outfitted with sensors and surveillance equipment, allegedly to track climate data, doubt it. But some believe it's actually tracking other kinds of activity. I agree.

Travis:

Actually, I don't know anything about any of that. Okay. That wasn't covered in geomancy?

Josh:

No, it's more that's more like cannotations and hand movements. But I think one of the bigger things is the fact that tourism is controlled. Visitors can only land at pre-approved sites, must travel with licensed guides, and are often monitored throughout their stay. There's no independent exploration, no going off the trail. You see what you're shown, and that is it. Which is like what North Korea does. It's sketchy. So is this secrecy just about safety or science? That's the question. Or is there something under the ice that the world's governments don't want anyone getting too close to? I say, with everything going on, the redactions, all this stuff. I mean, yeah, it is just weird. It is dangerous. I can see both sides, really. I can see how the weather would make it so it is a sage protocol. You should not wander off alone in Antarctica. It is very dangerous and you will die.

Travis:

I agree with that 100%.

Josh:

But what if there is a scientific crew of explorers that are fit and qualified to do this exploration? They still cannot go.

Travis:

They have to have they they are doing that. That's what these bases are. Yes.

Josh:

No, there's territories that are no fly zones, no entrance zones. They're not allowed to go.

Travis:

That no, that that means there's that like commercial. There are people that still fly over those zones. There are researchers that are down there flying over those zones. They're still exploring. It is just so hostile. They're not allowing you can't just get in a submarine. I mean, you can, and we saw that play out last year. Get in a submarine and start plumbing the depths of the ocean, it will probably end badly for you. This is a very, I think a serious safety protocol. And to say that the government is hiding something is like the height of paranoia. I think it's just it is wanting people to be safe and not go down there and jeopardize their lives because it's so hostile. If we were to just open this up, like tourism, let's just say all of Antarctica is now open, tourists can come and go, we would destroy it. This is a preserve down there. This is one of the last extreme environments we have on this planet that we can research. And if we have tourists down there throwing their trash or we allow franchises to put a McDonald's down there or whatever, it's just it's not going to become the sacred part of our planet anymore.

Josh:

You really think that the governments of the world are considering this sacred?

Travis:

Yes.

Josh:

I don't think the governments understand what they want me to do.

Travis:

They 100% it's not the governments, it's the scientific communities of those governments.

Josh:

But it's government treaties.

Travis:

No, it's government grants that are funding the research down there. And they're giving it to science. You're talking about something that happened in the the 50s, like a treaty to allow these certain research groups to go down there. That's fine. Yeah. They all agree to that. That's what that's what the International Space Station is. It's a place that is devoid of borders. Like you go to that space station and it's you're not acknowledging country boundaries. You know, it's not Japan ends here and USSR starts here or Russia here.

Josh:

There are borders there because there's territories owned by each country. But if you look at the border map, it's actually really interesting. It's all like coastal, you know, there's some that kind of dip into the central Antarctica, but not. Not much. I mean, this is not an accurate number, but I would say like 75% of the continent is not owned. I think that's just like the main central wasteland of Antarctica. But yeah, the territories are just kind of circling all around the coasts, but it is bizarre.

Travis:

Well, I haven't had a chance to read it, so maybe this will be an addendum to this episode. I have pulled up the treaty right now. So I'll look through it. It's 14 articles.

Josh:

So in conclusion, all this, Antarca remains one of the most remote, least understood places on Earth. It's a land of extremes, frozen deserts, buried mountains, strange sounds, and preserved meteorites. It's where explorers have sensed invisible companions, where stories of secret bases still circulate, and where science and speculation blur at the edges. Whether these mysteries are a result of natural wonder, buried history, or something much stranger, one thing is clear. Antarctica invites curiosity. And it keeps its secrets well.

Travis:

Fine. Keep your secrets.

Josh:

One of my favorites. So my thoughts, I'm sure everyone is very curious, because I've been keeping those secret. I think there's more than meets the eye or the common knowledge when it comes to Antarctica. I think there's I don't want to say sinister. That would be sad, but I think there's much more going on. It's the perfect place to hide anything if you have any projects or any secret anything. I think there's something else going on. I don't necessarily know when it comes to like ghosts or anything like that. I'm not sure. There's a lot of stories, but like I've mentioned before, I'm still a little skeptical on the aspect of the supernatural. When it comes to aliens, I just have to go off of the reports. And it sounds like there's a ton. Very similar to like Skinwalker Ranch, where it's just a hot spot. So I'm not discounting that. I don't think there's aliens that live under the ground. I do believe that there was probably civilizations that once lived on this land. And if some way or somehow we can get down there, which maybe if there is a big hole, maybe we have gone down there. Maybe we can find that. But like we said, it's weird. It's it's all secretive. I don't, I don't know. Release the data. That's what I want.

Travis:

So at one time there was an Antarctic land bridge that connected uh Antarctica to South America and Australia.

Josh:

I could see that because there's a Kappa Island, it was pretty close to South America. Argentina is at the lower Yeah.

Travis:

Argentina, Chile, also way down there. Yeah. But a lot of expeditions launch out of Argentina.

Josh:

Yeah, I can see that. Which is also where supposedly a lot of the Nazis fled to.

Travis:

Argentina.

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

Oh.

Josh:

So they're right there.

Travis:

Yeah, but they fled there. They weren't there to do research. They they went there because they were scared. Or maybe they had already established a base there. Hmm.

Josh:

Mm-hmm. Mm. They said there could have been a base in Antarctica, too.

Travis:

Sure. Okay. So I don't know what I think about Antarctica. I think that it's weird. I think that there's a lot of things about that that continent that we don't know just because we haven't done a lot of research there. It's just the same with our oceans.

Josh:

We have done a lot of research. We've been researching for 80 years.

Travis:

Then why don't we have these ants? What researching Antarctica?

Josh:

That's the thing. Yeah, that's the thing. Where is it? Release the data.

Travis:

We've been on this planet for thousands of years, millions of years, and we still don't know shit about our oceans.

Josh:

No, because we're not down there doing it, but we are in Antarctica doing the research, but we're not, I don't, I mean, we're not getting very much.

Travis:

Well, we are not. Like a bunch of countries are there. We also have research facilities in the ocean. So what you're like, you want them to release all that information? They do. What you're doing, and what I feel is very dangerous, is you're seeing things beyond the research and you're speculating. You're saying, Well, I feel like there's aliens down here, they haven't released alien information, so they're hiding it. We don't know that. Nobody knows that.

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

We're creating straw men out of ice.

Josh:

I just know governments are known for hiding things, you know, that for good reason. There's very good reasons to be secretive. But I think that there has been power trips, or if there is some alien galactic, whatever, I don't know. If there is something and the military and governments have been keeping it secret for whatever reason, I think it is time that it comes out. And it is possible, just because of the weirdness and secrecy of Antarctica as well as the alien world, there could be a link. But I I don't have enough proof to link these two together. But for the governments and the military, I do think that there is secrets there. And the government and military being involved with Antarctica, that just kind of carries over for me.

Travis:

Okay. I don't know.

Josh:

I don't I don't know either.

Travis:

I don't know. I'm not I'm not gonna s say whether there are secrets or not down there. I think that this is uh just a very strange place. And I don't know.

Josh:

Yeah, I don't know either. That's what's so crazy about it. We could keep researching or the listeners. I recommend you guys do your rabbit trails on this because you can go down really deep and it's fascinating and it is bizarre.

Travis:

Well, I think there's something exciting about saying I don't know, because then that opens up a world of questions.

Josh:

It does. Yeah, and the more you find out and the more you get to know, the more you don't know. Just like this whole journey of this show for us. Well, that is the show. This is this episode, Antarctica. I was super excited. I'm probably gonna do more research just because I've been wanting to for a long time. And just doing quick rabbit trails just on like Ernest Shackleton and those transcontinental voyages. He was trying to get from one side to the other. I want to learn everything.

Travis:

Okay, so now before we get to the most anticipated part of our show, the quiz, we're gonna uh read a little bit from notes that we've received from you guys. Yeah. Sorry that was so awkward, but basically we're going to uh take criticism.

Josh:

Well, these these ones aren't criticisms, these are good, but they could be. They could be, and we will take it. Uh not well, but we will.

Travis:

No, terribly.

Josh:

Yeah, so one of our fan mails, it says, Hi boys, keep it up one step closer to Rogan. I don't know about that. He kind of has elites. I wouldn't consider us elites in the fields of whatever they're talking about.

Travis:

No, we're just a bunch of ding-dongs.

Josh:

No, uh, but that would be cool, I guess. I don't know. Would you go on Rogan? I would I probably wouldn't.

Travis:

I mean, we'd talk, we'd talk about it. I don't know. I feel like it's a lot of scrutiny, and I'm not ready for that level of scrutiny.

Josh:

That's true.

Travis:

It's a lot of eyes, it's a lot of eyes. Yeah.

Josh:

Uh, we also have a review from Apple that says, been listening since the beginning, always a very enjoyable podcast. I like that it touches on a lot of topics just to get you interested enough to do your own research. I hope they start doing follow-up episodes.

Travis:

We've talked about that.

Josh:

Doing follow-up?

Travis:

Yeah, like circling back and touching on an earlier episode and maybe diving a little deeper into aspects of it. Yeah, we're talking about it.

Josh:

Absolutely. Let us know what you guys want us to follow up on if that's something you want.

Travis:

Yeah. What episode would you like us to go back on?

Josh:

Yeah.

Travis:

Otherwise, we're gonna do it on our own.

Josh:

Yep. Well, that's what we have for today. If you guys want your stuff read, uh leave some stuff. Now we get to the cool, fun, awesome part of the quiz where we find out our next episode topic.

Travis:

Oh man.

Josh:

Okay. I have no idea what this is. So I just opened the baseline quiz with the topic name.

Travis:

Yeah. Um, Indrid Cold.

Josh:

Indrid Cold. I have no idea.

Travis:

Never heard of that.

Josh:

I I don't like it. I have no idea.

Travis:

Pretty much gross.

Josh:

So I guess we'll just start the questions and figure it out. So question one: what type of being is Indrid Cold referred to as by witnesses and researchers? A ghostly or paranormal entity, B, ultraterrestrial or dimensional being, C, extraterrestrial or alien being, or D all of the above. Right off the bat, I don't know ultra-terrestrial. That's the first time I've seen that word.

Travis:

I don't either. So maybe that's my answer.

Josh:

But all of the above? Why isn't all usually when there's an all of the above, that's the answer, but I don't know how it could be all of the above.

Travis:

Not always. Not always, but it could be the quizzer, just like I can't come up with a third option. Could be none of the above.

Josh:

I'm gonna say that too. Ultra-terrestrial or dimensional being. That just Yeah, I don't know.

Travis:

I don't know what it is.

Josh:

I have no idea.

Travis:

I don't know what Indrid cold is, so I'm just gonna line those two things up and hope for the best.

Josh:

All right. Well, next question. During which decade did the most Indrid cold sightings and related encounters take place? Is it A 1940s, B 1960s, C 1980s, or D 2000s? I am still completely blind. I'm gonna say 80s. I don't know why. I just this is the first time on a quiz that I have no idea what's going on.

Travis:

I'm gonna say 2000s.

Josh:

Okay.

Travis:

I don't know why. Ultra-dimensional, interdimensional seems like pretty recent.

Josh:

Could be. All right, next question. In reports, what is the most common feature of Indrid cold? A glowing red eyes, B a constant, unsettling smile, C, a wide-brimmed hat, or D, a face that seems blurred.

Travis:

Oh That's my answer is a face that seems blurred.

Josh:

Oh, I don't like that.

Travis:

The wide-brimmed hat is also Wide Brimmed hat, I feel like that was another The Hat Man.

Josh:

Yeah, isn't that a thing?

Travis:

Sure.

Josh:

Okay. I'm gonna go with that. A wide-brimmed hat. I think this is the hat man. This is the name of the hat man. Okay. And you're saying a face that seems blurred?

Travis:

Mm-hmm.

Josh:

Next question. What is the nickname given to Ingrid Cold? Oh, fucking that A, the grinning man, yeah, B the Shadow Man, C the Blurry Man, or D the Hat Man? I'm going with that.

Travis:

I got a double boundary.

Josh:

I'm really excited. I hope that is what this could be. That could be cool.

Travis:

Okay. I'm gonna be blurry man. Again, I gotta full of my heart.

Josh:

Okay, next one. Where is Indrid Cold from? Is it A Venus? B the Andromeda Galaxy, C a planet called Lanulos, or D, a hidden base on Earth's moon. Alright, this is wild. This is throwing me for a trip.

Travis:

I'm gonna pick the made-up one, uh, a planet called Lanulos.

Josh:

How do you know it's not what if it's real?

Travis:

It says a planet called Lanulos. It doesn't say a planet called Venus, it doesn't say a galaxy called Andromeda.

Josh:

I'm gonna say Andromeda Galaxy. Alright, last one. What type of craft did witnesses describe during the initial Indrid Cold Encounter? A a triangle craft, B, saucer-shaped disc, C, glowing sphere, or D metallic cigar-shaped craft.

Travis:

What would a guy with a white brim hat want to walk into? What would you imagine?

Josh:

Cigar. Absolutely.

Travis:

Oh, you're right.

Josh:

Yeah, it's part of the dapper aesthetic appeal. Okay.

Travis:

Um I'm gonna say, wait, I have to do it.

Josh:

Okay, okay. So what do you what do you think?

Travis:

Uh let wrap it up. Glowing sphere. I don't care. I don't know.

Josh:

Yeah, this is this one's crazy. Okay, so I'm gonna submit. We're gonna see our accuracy. Oh um okay. What type of being is injured cold referred to as by witnesses and researchers? We both said ultraterrestrial or dimensional being.

Travis:

You were right, all of the above.

Josh:

It is all of the above.

Travis:

Yep.

Josh:

Which makes no sense to me.

Travis:

How can you be all the things? That's like the menu at the Cheesecake Factory. Yeah. How can you have so many things and be good at any of them?

Josh:

Yeah. I don't get it. Okay, so next one. During which decade did the most Indrid Cold sightings and related encounters take place? I said 1980s.

Travis:

I said 2000s.

Josh:

It was 1960s.

Travis:

So so far I am O for two. How are you? O for two. Feels bad so far.

Josh:

Oh yeah. Next one in reports. What is the most common feature of Indrid Cold? I said wide-brimmed hat.

Travis:

I said a face that seems blurred.

Josh:

And the correct answer is a constant unsettling smile. So my hat man thing's out of the oh my gosh.

Travis:

I don't like that. That's a constant unsettling smile. So like smile and smile too are inred cold?

Josh:

Dude, I have no idea.

Travis:

It's also like a ghostly or paranormal activity or entity lines up with smile and smile too.

Josh:

But this means we probably got the next ones wrong because it was the nickname given, and we picked a nickname based on our previous answer. I said the hat man. I said the blurry man. It's the grinning man. So we got that run wrong. So I we have not either of us got one correct.

Travis:

Not yet.

Josh:

Where is Indrid Cold from? I said the Andromeda Galaxy.

Travis:

This is where it really comes around for me, because I said a planet called Lannulos.

Josh:

The real planet called Lannulus is the correct answer.

Travis:

The real life, actual planet, super chill planet of Lannulose.

Josh:

The grinning planet is what I call it.

Travis:

That's what they know it from, yeah.

Josh:

All right, and so I got that wrong. You got that right. Last one, what type of craft did witnesses describe during the initial inbred coal encounter? I said metal cigar shaped craft.

Travis:

I said glowing sphere.

Josh:

And metal cigar shaped craft was correct.

Travis:

So you got one right, I got one right.

Josh:

Wow. I am thrown for a loop. This is gonna be fun. I've never heard anything about this. So is this a cryptid, but also like it's a little, I have no idea. It's like a cryptid from a planet, but it's dimensional. I don't oh.

Travis:

If it comes from somewhere else, oh that is extraterrestrial or ultra-terrest. I don't know. It's how can it be all things?

Josh:

But also a ghost? Uh-huh. Come on, get out of here. How? How? I don't know.

Travis:

Get ready to have your mind blown.

Josh:

Okay. Well, this is a thing that we're gonna talk about next week.

Travis:

So that means our next episode is going to be what? Wow! 30!

Josh:

That's right, episode 30. This will be our 30th episode release. Yeah.

Travis:

Pretty cool.

Josh:

And it's a little bit of everything, it sounds like.

Travis:

Yeah, we're uh taking all sorts of elements from previous episodes and putting it into one form, Indrid Cold.

Josh:

Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you for listening. Get a hold of us wherever you can. Figure it out.

Travis:

However, you can. Josh is about to give out his uh personal mailing address, his home address.

Josh:

I should get a P.O. box.

Travis:

So, Josh, go ahead. Do you you wanna give out your address now?

Josh:

Remember the old Nickelodeon things where you could mail stuff in. It was a P.O. box. That's what I should do.

Travis:

We have one.

Josh:

We do?

Travis:

I do. Uh we had to get one as a side effect of moving and being in different houses, running from the government and squatting in so many places. We gotta have one place though where we can get our junk mail.

Josh:

Yeah, yeah.

Travis:

I gotta know who's offering solar paneling at a discount.

Josh:

Mm-hmm. And you gotta take that up too. That's the future, man.

Travis:

Yeah, and this uh this house that I'm squatting in.

Josh:

Well, cool. Thank you everyone again for listening, and it really makes us excited. We're getting lots of listeners, and we get to see that every day, and it's really fun. Um, thank you, Jordan, for putting together these quizzes and putting together our notes and our lives and our everything.

Travis:

Thank you, Jordan.

Josh:

And that's that's what we got, right? That's it. That's it. Now I have to figure out what the hell that quiz is about.

Travis:

Yeah, I'm I'm gonna get up from this podcast and forget everything that we talked about.

Josh:

Lucky you. I will not. I will have nightmares of grinning men.

Travis:

I hate it.

Josh:

Well, we will chat at you next episode. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Goodbye.

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